tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-352918656484283803.post4698452502579235708..comments2019-09-28T06:25:47.182-06:00Comments on shipyard: Some reflections on The ObviousEmily Cottonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04387284573077158160noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-352918656484283803.post-39560392108459449182011-09-27T23:17:07.634-06:002011-09-27T23:17:07.634-06:00Oh. Note, also, that you can't really describ...Oh. Note, also, that you can't really describe these experiences to someone who was not involved without falling back on explanation and meaning. Which is maybe what you (Josh) were trying to say. Which is maybe what I (myself, even) was trying to say, at least in part. So, yes, we all may have had it right at one point. Overshooting is fun.Emily Cottonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04387284573077158160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-352918656484283803.post-69047814746259032032011-09-27T23:10:41.639-06:002011-09-27T23:10:41.639-06:00Well, we went over it in class again yesterday, an...Well, we went over it in class again yesterday, and I think my understanding of it has grown somewhat. First of all, the distinction between meaning and relational knowledge is not as sharp as I made it out to be--or rather, meanings are often born out of relationships.<br /><br />Secondly, relational knowledge is not about one having feelings that he struggles to make others understand; that's probably closer to the meaning end of the spectrum. Rather, relational knowledge can only come when two (or more?) parties have a perfect understanding that transcends explanation or even symbols. Have you ever had a "moment" with something (nature) or someone, where everything just clicked? Where your mom or your friend or whoever did or said the right thing, and you both just knew that everything would be all right because you were (extant) together? <br /><br />These moments can come in times of great joy and great sorrow, and they come through the grace of God--not whenever we want them, but when He knows that, for whatever reason, we need them. They help us understand His love for us, and--few and far between though they may be--they give us a reason to keep living when explanations and even meaning fail us.<br /><br /><br />That was long. Does it make more sense now?Emily Cottonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04387284573077158160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-352918656484283803.post-41680403915476987972011-09-27T00:38:33.215-06:002011-09-27T00:38:33.215-06:00Whoa, deep ;)
I think you're right about rela...Whoa, deep ;)<br /><br />I think you're right about relational/ emotional knowledge. It seems like it applies to communication in general- we have these feelings, but no way of sharing them with a person directly like we could any of our physical possessions. Instead, we have to express them through a medium, ie language, art, or music. We have to abstract te feelings into more basic symbols (meaning, as you put it) to be decoded by others. That way, hopefully, one person can understand what another person feels inside. Kind of like how a speaker can vibrate all it wants, but unless there's air or water to transmit through, no one can hear the music<br /><br />Lol I think that's what you meant, let me know if I'm off in left fieldJosh Cottonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09728823585585006569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-352918656484283803.post-4770197703668118342011-09-21T16:30:33.216-06:002011-09-21T16:30:33.216-06:00It applies to story, too.
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Relations...It applies to story, too.<br />Plot<br />Character<br />RelationshipsMadeleinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00117625402619470834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-352918656484283803.post-31228763616033568942011-09-21T15:54:53.621-06:002011-09-21T15:54:53.621-06:00Scot dialect: to babble or chatter on about nothin...Scot dialect: to babble or chatter on about nothing of import. See "I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles)," by The Proclaimers.Emily Cottonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04387284573077158160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-352918656484283803.post-32599048508919194502011-09-21T09:39:29.965-06:002011-09-21T09:39:29.965-06:00What does havering mean?What does havering mean?Flamelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12748607739535804740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-352918656484283803.post-22655828310726054082011-09-21T00:56:28.829-06:002011-09-21T00:56:28.829-06:00Hmm. I know that close analysis can ruin whatever...Hmm. I know that close analysis can ruin whatever it is (a poem, a person) for some. If that's the case, you don't have to take the above seriously, nor do you have to take it into your reading of whatever it is (a poem, a person...). These posts are labeled "havering" for a reason.<br /><br />Or, for many reasons, as the case may be.Emily Cottonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04387284573077158160noreply@blogger.com